Looking at the raw transcripts from this conversation in late August 2018 reveals a band at a pivotal crossroads. Swollen Members weren't just planning another tour; they were laying the strategic groundwork for their own legacy. With the 20-year anniversary of their seminal debut Balance looming, they were priming the pump for a massive worldwide run. But first, they had to reconquer Canada coast to coast.
It was a move that felt both nostalgic and forward-thinking. Prevail framed it perfectly at the time. He says this sprawling fall tour was a “nice setup” for what was to come. And what was coming was significant. Not just a victory lap but a full-scale creative resurgence. “We've consciously tried to make sure that we could get back out in front of our listening audience and give them some tunes and get primed for when we come back,” he explained. The plan was clear: tour through the fall, record in the winter, and unleash a new Swollen Members album to coincide with the anniversary.
Part of that priming process involved dropping their first-ever live album, a recording captured at the legendary Fox Theatre in Boulder, Colorado. For a group whose reputation was forged in the crucible of live performance, it was an almost shockingly overdue document. But the choice of venue speaks volumes. Prevail holds it in the highest regard. “It's one of my favorite places to play in North America, probably alongside the Commodore here in Vancouver, and it's just an absolutely fantastic venue,” he notes. The energy of a US college town captured the raw power that made them underground kings.
And the obvious question was why it took two decades to release a live record. Prevail’s answer pulls back the curtain on their relentless creative process. They weren't archivists; they were creators who fed on momentum. “We've always been the kind of group that when we go on tour, we do take a lot of feedback from the crowd... and usually the next course of action is off the road, chill for a couple weeks, and then get back in the studio and just capitalize on that energy and that momentum.” It was a creative loop that prioritized the future over the past, a work ethic that defined their entire career.
The conversation then pivots to his own origin story, a journey that feels quintessentially Canadian. While born in Regina, Prevail is a product of British Columbia’s Vancouver Island. He moved to Vancouver after graduating in '93 before an opportunity took him and Moka Only down to San Diego. It was a pilgrimage to the heart of the culture. It was there he absorbed the fundamentals, meeting what he calls “a lot of great underground emcees and DJs and graffiti writers and break dancers.”
But the actual formation of Swollen Members was far less calculated, more kismet. It wasn’t some grand industry plan. After soaking up the California scene, Prevail met Madchild for the first time in San Francisco. The interaction was brutally brief and professional. “We literally had a five-minute conversation. Oh cool. You're down here too. Yeah. Respect. Awesome. Cool... Didn't really think that much about it.” It wasn't until a year later at a mutual friend's birthday party in North Vancouver that the chemistry ignited. They started rapping together, and as Prevail says, “the rest is pretty much history.”
That history is inextricably linked to the unique challenges of the Canadian hip-hop landscape. When they started, there was no clear path to success. Prevail rightly credits the godfathers like Maestro Fresh Wes and Dream Warriors for kicking the door open. His own generation, including the Rascalz, Kardinal Offishall, Saukrates, and Choclair, had to build the industry from the ground up. The sheer geography of the country was its own antagonist.
He speaks to a fundamental truth of being a Canadian artist. “It makes it difficult to travel Canada only in the fact that the travel times between the cities where you're able to garner enough of an audience to make it worth everyone's time can sometimes leave you days in between without doing a show.” It’s a trial by fire. That hardship bred a different kind of performer, one who cherished the stage because the effort to get there was so immense. It’s what forged their love for the live show.
I find that it's it's almost a I wanna say cheap, but it's it's an easy it's easy to fill those gaps lyrically with reverting to that. And I as a a lover of poetry and an avid reader... I just think there's too many words that I haven't used yet that that excite me.
Yet even as veterans, they were still finding new sparks of inspiration. Prevail detailed a recent recording session at Bryan Adams' The Warehouse Studio in Vancouver, an activation for the JUNO Awards that paired them with super-producer WondaGurl. The energy was immediate and potent. “She just made the beat right on the spot. We wrote our rhymes right on the spot, recorded, and made the beats for everything within three hours.” That one track, a song that felt like classic Swollen, was enough to reignite their desire to get back into the studio and create a full album.
And that gets to the core of their endurance. While Madchild has a successful solo career and Prevail has multiple projects like XL and Alpha Omega, there's an alchemy that only exists when they work together. “There's something unique about Swollen when we get together, and I have to chalk that up to our twenty-plus years of friendships,” he says. That bond is the bedrock of the entire enterprise.
This veteran perspective also informs their approach to an ever-evolving genre. Prevail is dismissive of trend-chasing. “My problem with that has always been that once you try to emulate or play catch up with what you hear, that sound has come and gone because someone else is developing something new.” It’s a losing game. His philosophy is about innovation from within, not mimicry from without.
Instead, they've remained committed to their foundational sound. When asked to define it, he’s unequivocal. The goal is to “always innovate, always push your boundaries, but do what you do best, and for Swollen Members, that's make really energetic hardcore underground rap music.” It’s a mission statement that has guided them for two decades, protecting their identity in a fickle industry.
This ethos is on full display in older tracks like “Bank Job,” which they had recently released from the vault. In it, they call themselves “northern border assassins,” a line that perfectly encapsulates their brand of aggressive Canadian pride. “We've been one of those groups that's always been very proud to be Canadian, and we wave that banner anywhere we go,” Prevail confirms. It's a patriotism rooted in values of kindness and generosity, not jingoism.
On a micro level, Prevail’s personal craft as a lyricist offers another layer of depth. He consciously avoids profanity, not out of prudishness but as a creative challenge. He sees it as a shortcut. “It's easy to fill those gaps lyrically with reverting to that,” he explains. As an avid reader and lover of poetry, he’s more interested in expanding his lexicon. “I just think there's too many words that I haven't used yet that excite me.”
The release of vault tracks like “Bank Job” and “Homicide” also provided a glimpse into their prolific work rate. These weren't throwaways; they were quality songs that simply didn't fit the specific narrative of a past album. “When you're making forty, fifty, sixty songs for a seventeen-song album, you do end up with songs that are great... but they just don't make the compendium of the album,” he notes. It’s a masterclass in album curation.
Looking to the future, Prevail was also energized by his project Alpha Omega with his nephew Neff. The collaboration wasn't just about family; it was about creative regeneration. He speaks about his nephew with genuine admiration. “He's reinvigorated me as I'm watching him discover breathing techniques and writing styles. It's literally resparked me to go back to the drawing board and reinvent myself.” It’s the cycle of mentorship in motion, where the teacher is also learning from the student.
Bringing the conversation home to Southwestern Ontario, Prevail’s memories are tied to the vibrant energy of the region's college towns, particularly London. He marvels at seeing 19 and 20-year-olds in the crowd decades after their debut. His theory is both humbling and a sign of their cultural permanence. “I wonder if their parents used to listen to us, and maybe we're just rumbling through their mom and dad's old CD collections.”
This 2018 interview captured a band that understood its past but was fiercely focused on its future. They weren't a nostalgia act coasting on past glories. They were seasoned veterans using their entire history as fuel. The tour, the live album, the new recordings—it was all part of a larger campaign to prove that after 20 years in the trenches, Swollen Members were still making history, not just recounting it.
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We are thrilled to officially unearth the 519 Magazine Digital Vault. This isn't just a re-post; it's a high-fidelity restoration of a pivotal era in music journalism. By pairing original print dates with modern retrospectives, we're bridging the gap between historical rock-and-roll grit and the lightning-fast performance of today's web. These stories—once locked in physical print and lost URLs—are now back, fully searchable, and optimized for a new generation of fans.
